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3rd party Videos Matzker- needs some translation from our friends who speak German

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I have found 2 video from Matzker and the things they are creating for the Grenadier. Ibtried the translate function on YouTube but no luck. It would be great if someone can add color to video. Not looking for a transcript but hey this is what they said in general terms. Looks like we have some goodies in prototype stage. @klarie @emax @YIPPE
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View: https://youtu.be/aloyJaFV7qE


View: https://youtu.be/kLo20lRW_b4


I saw these and wish someone could translate and caption for us... Please.
 

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Translating the entire thingie is not done in 5 minutes.
This upper video is just a review from underneath. So he is telling about general robustness of equipment - e.g an ordinary lever where the steering damper is mounted is usually finger thick while this one barely fits in the palm.
They developed an additional protector for the front an rear differential - available in Black, grey and red.
The price option for red or grey ladder frame is donated to the Halo Trust. anyone ordering also red or grey frames shows support for Halo trust and land mine removal. (I did not know that but I did not want any other than black)
He was mentioning that Matzker is considering auxiliary fuel tank development, lift, portals but this is all in an early stage and not yet to be discussed. -
Confirmed by a mechanic - everything is a bit more sturdy and robust as it would be required, but the entire construction is easy to maintain and all parts that may need to be serviced or to be replaced are easy to access and to maintain - reducing time in the repairshop and cost. No need to remove a lot to get access to a particular item.
So he was mentioning at last the rear parts towing package and its capability. Max ball weight and tow rate.
But there was very vague and very little on new parts that will make it in the shop just the protectors, everything else is at a quite early stage.
Lots of words to tell about nothing really new to us. - For other customers that are not in this forum this is a verbal explanation of capabilities of the underbody and its robustness.
 

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I have found 2 video from Matzker and the things they are creating for the Grenadier. Ibtried the translate function on YouTube but no luck.

I messed about for ages trying to switch the auto translate on but failing. I thought it was just me!
 

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To the lower video


This is a Q&A on modification capabilities - bicycle stands etc.
Q1 - elevated roof? . Not possible as of now. Due to body stiffness there are a set of reinforcements built in to B, C pillars. Some companies doing resarch on how to do this - but as of now there is no solution.

Q2 - what can be modified to modify the vehicle as a camper with or without removing rear seats, - 2 seater utility. what ist the usable space? - Metric use between 150 / 180 centimetres, - he remained vague the 2 seater is better for more camp equipment - he also said equipment has been "drawn" - means CAD but not yet been built. No more on that.

Q3: What about bicycle carrier? A There is already an extension for the Tow ball system available - to allow the Spare wheel being mounted at its place and bicycles can be carried at a rear mounting place.

Q4 Roof rack? There are already several available, the one mounted here is from FrontRunner in variable length- Matzker is developing one on its own, as low as possible to minimize wind noise - and mentioned the difference of static and dynamic load - means dynamic what you can transport on the roof while in motion - this is 150kgs - static 450kg vehicle in stand still.

Q5 Services and Warranty: A: Answer regards Germany only - currently 18 Ineos Agents plus Bosch services in Germany. - Every Ineos customer will get information what to do - if get stuck in the middle of nowhere and how to access support.

Q6 Central display: One person was complaining about central display, the person reckons the central display is just for cost saving on LHD RHD vehicles. Are any effects on how to drive a central display? The answer is there is no issue, and in particular due to the rather upright windscreen anything in front of the driver would be rather and issue when navigating offroad. - The important information such as velocity is sufficiently big.

Q7 Just regards the pricing What does its cost to own and operate? A - The person mentions the base price of each edition.

Q8 The person considers the Grenadier as a „horny box“, a cool car, but how long will it exist and spare parts available? - A: This is a matter of hope that it will be built long enough and its an utility like an old defender, lasting, perhaps passed on in the family and a companion. The partners like Bosch and others are sufficiently renown to ship all necessary spares and that is the least to worry about.

Q9 What is empty weight and max weight? A: Starting from 2.6t depending on Equipment max 3.5 metric tons.

Q10 What on Matzer Special vehicles as based on Defender / X Class .. anything planned on Grenadier or Quartermaster Pickup ? - A: As of now welded enforcements in B and C pillars are concerning the engineers - how to alter that w/o inhibiting the vehicles body stability - Again very early stage - no answer yet.

Q11 Why must this vehicle have a 3 litre V6 engine concerning fuel prices is this economic and feasible Why is fuel consumption no where mentioned ? A: The engine is a straight six from BMW and a very reliable machine and is designed to get such a vehicle properly in motion. The consumption ratio / power to weight is feasible he mentions some what 13l /100km but that is also related to his driving style.

Q12 Just to confirm there no price difference between Diesel and Petrol / Gas? A : Yes confirmed both engines have same price.

Q13 Why is the 5 Seater not providing an even level to the boot.. A: For using the vehicle as a sleeper get an elevation e.g,. by a rack with drawers or purchase a 2 seater. It is urgently recommended if the rear seats are removed or what ever modification is done to allow maintenance and access to battery compartments and fuses

Q14 Is there the same distance between A pillar and steering wheel as in old defender? - A: NO.
Old defender has a vehicle With of somewhat 179cm and Grenadier 193cm so there is lots more comfort.

Q15 concerns space and differences to RHD (Footwell intrusion) any effects? - A :no issues and comfortable driving position even for very tall persons.

Q16 Cost of first inspection Will it be the same as the price of a a used Lada Niva in appropriate condition? A: The cost of an inital service is between 500 and 900 Eur. If you get a Lada Niva for that price I want one too.

Q17 Service Intervals how should maintenance occur: A Once a year or 20.000kms Oil change in drive drain except engine every 40 tkm (every 2nd service) If the vehicle is in hefty offroad use - change every service recommended or earlier - 6 months time.

Q18 concerns 230V, Auxheater, 2nd Battery, Type of Automatic? A: 230V inverter aftermarket by matzker, 2nd Battery option (on model), Automatic by ZF. AuxHeater aftermarket by Webasto but no mention of just cabin or cabin and engine.

Q19 Towing Weight ? A 3.5 metric ton.

Q20 Ball weight? - A depending on model up to 300kg.

Q21 Max speed 100km/h with trailer possible A - yes even with 3.5 ton in tow.

Q22 Safari Window Blinds do they exist: A Not yet by Ineos but Matzker has a company who will provide these as aftermarket.

Q23 Will there be a 3 Door version of the Grenadier: A no plannings yet.

Q24 Is the vehicle body on frame or monocoque A: Body on Frame

Q 25 Is there an electric version of Grenadier or just outdated ICE ? A our engines are highly modern and efficient and everything else but outdated technology. There is just one electric version of the Grenadier used by Sir Jim - and development continues on that topic.

Q26 Is the vehicle also available in manual gear: A : No automatic only.

End of Questions -
1 Indoor a quick look around shows the short Front Runner Roof Rack

2 Rhino Rack long Roof Rack shipped by Ineos. Side marquee / blind is also mounted.

3 Roof rack from Leetech with Matzker - low range.

The Red A is panel to hold a water can.

Below there is combined side runner / step / Rockslider.

5 front a modified bumper with an open winch. It needs to be put in Germany to TÜV - so it is approved but need to be in the paperwork

6 Wheels in 305 plus differential protectors, changeable elements on Wheels,

7 Ladder was altered to fit a jerry can.

Vehicle in Donny Grey - parts are available in 4-6 weeks.

8 Drawer System for 5 seater vehicles to allow sleeping inside.

9 Battery compartment 2 105 A electronics.

10 Seat covers - made in South Africa made from Canvas.

11 A Scottish white vehicle - with Seatcovers in a different colour-

It has a long Frontrunner Roof Rack - Safariwindows can be elevated but not removed.

12 Bicycle carrier extension for tow bar will be mounted on original tow ball.

13 Where to recognise the vehicle type this is a 2 seater utility. even load space - An euro pallet fits in. Reminding on any construction bear in mind that you have to maintain this place and what ever you put in the vehicle - you must be able to access batteries and fuses.


So this is roughly what was explained in the video - the numbers are referring to cuts between video takes. You will notice.
HTH and have fun.
 

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@klarie thank you so mich, this is amazing. Much more info than I expected. I appericate it very much.

We have to figure out a system where can buy people a beer as a thank you. I owe you a 6 pack.
 

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@klarie thank you so mich, this is amazing. Much more info than I expected. I appericate it very much.

We have to figure out a system where can buy people a beer as a thank you. I owe you a 6 pack.
unfortunatly the domain https://beerpal.com/ is already occupied. What a pitty it would have been a wonderful business case!
 

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@klarie thank you so mich, this is amazing. Much more info than I expected. I appericate it very much.

We have to figure out a system where can buy people a beer as a thank you. I owe you a 6 pack.

only for US:
 

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only for US:
We should all keep @Stu_Barnes fully stocked with liquid bread.
 

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@klarie, you're the second forum hero today. (y)
(first was @Jean Mercier in the "Safari Water Ingress" thread).

@Stu_Barnes, I suggest a "forum hero of the day" banner or badge.
Don't need that, too much work for Stu, everybody helps everybody... but I appreciate the compliment 😌
 

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Another new video of them:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5jfbwijBX4


Has some great shots! :)
I just watched this and other videos of Matzker about the Grenadier for the first time.
Daniel Pfeiffer seems to be an absolutely experienced specialist, but if he does, then only in selling.
Because what he shows here while driving in an off-road course is not only embarrassing, but exemplary irresponsible.
Anyone who has passed through the old school of off-road driving knows that the thumbs should rest on the steering wheel rim, do not grasp and never cross the arms. Btw. not on the street either.
Mr Pfeiffer should visit an off-road basic course.
 
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