I can’t fathom the complaints of driving dynamics

[HereinDaRockies]

Putting this out here for prospective buyers to see.
I have owned the grenadier for almost 2 years. Steering and handling has been more than satisfactory for me - I have everything stock.

Test drove two Porsches today - 911 and Boxster.

After the test drives, the grenadier’s throttle response and steering felt better than both Porsches! Granted - I was driving local roads and highways. Not on a race track.

I am not picky about the Grenadier’s dynamics but I didn’t realize how compelling it really is, even when compared against modern sports cars.

If your on-road driving scenarios are not aggressive, the grenadier’s powertrain is more than compelling!

I was expecting to be blown away by the Porsches and affirm my desire to have one… It was a very underwhelming experience relative to the grenadier.

Will be test driving a lotus emira next.. let’s see how that compares..

 

[Jeremy996]

The Porsches at conventional road speeds will be dull; they come alive when driven hard, (at speeds that will get you locked up!) Outside of a track, they are not at their best.

If you are looking for driving thrills, you need a 'worse' car. My old Morgan is perfect; 60mph feels heroic, 70mph feels ambitious, it will crack the ton, (just!), but you will feel epic!

 

[TheDocAUS]

I cannot understand it either. It is a really good offroad old style 4X4.

Some owners did not do enough research before buying, then blame the car, rather than looking in a mirror.

You also need to properly research before modifying the car, to respect the design parameters. I slightly over modified the Nissan Patrol near the end, I learnt from that and did not do it on the Grenadier.

 

[Greasemonkey]

For me, there are few vehicles that are more relaxing to drive than an INEOS Grenadier. On vacation, I drive 1000 km more or less with just my left hand on the steering wheel, my right arm resting on the center console. Only very rarely do I use both hands on the wheel.

(And before anyone criticizes me for this – I know you're not supposed to drive like that, but it's simply relaxing.)

A while ago, I got a Range Rover Evoque as a loaner from the dealership. Right after leaving the dealership, I had to take a 180° turn. Because of the Evoque's direct steering, I felt like I was going to flip it.

My immediate reaction was: I want my INEOS back.

Of course, after a while, I got used to the Evoque too. But I still prefer driving my INEOS.

 

[landmannnn]

I think a lot of it is the actual weight capacity. All up the Grenadier is 3500kg (7,700 pounds). Many other vehicles (especially pickups) claim similar capacity but if you get anywhere near that you are riding on the bump stops.
So yes, the IG has firm suspension but it can do what the door sticker says rather than marketing speak.

 

[bakepl]

Lets just say designed and built for it's intended use. Same for Porsche et al.... Both do some things brilliantly out of the box and other things not so. If one followed the design principles and quality of components being assembled from the beginning of the project it's most definitely not a Porsche nor dare I say a soccer mums car. What I'm saying is if you purchased this vehicle for it's intended purpose then you will mostly walk away with a smile every time.

 

[Tazzieman]

If you're on the fence whether to buy, drive all the alternatives (IFS SUVs, G Wagens with all the fruit) and then the solid axle alternatives () . Cark parks, highways and twisty mountain roads (if you have any).

If after that the Ineos ticks all the boxes, all you have to do is tick the choices boxes for either city/offroad use. Maybe all the boxes.
It's not a "modern" vehicle, but it's not an old fashioned vehicle either.
And if you want a zippy 911, get an early lightweight one.

 

[holto]

You only have to test drive one ro know if its for you, the steering is a little bit quirky but after 10mins you adapt, some tall people have issues with the footrest but the seats are rhe most comfy of any car i had

And 4 springs rides so muxh better than rear leafs

Personally iam rapped with ours.

 

[Tazzieman]

You only have to test drive one ro kbow if its fir you, the atewring is a little bit quirky

Quirky is OK

 

[Clark Kent]

You only have to test drive one ro kbow if its fir you, the atewring is a little bit quirky but after 10mins tou adapt, aome tall pwople have issues wirh rhe foitrest but the seats are rhe most comfy of any car i had

And 4 speings rides so muxh better than rear leafs

Personally iam rapped with ours.

Are you Welsh?
Autocorrect hates you today holto.
And for the record, I have no issues with the atewring either

 

[holto]

Are you Welsh?
Autocorrect hates you today holto.
And for the record, I have no issues with the atewring either

Poor eyesight , to lazy to put glasses on whilst using phone.... Can only squint so much. Anyway FTFY.

 

[Clark Kent]

Poor eyesight , to lazy to put glasses on whilst using phone.... Can only squint so much. Anyway FTFY.

I can relate. I avoided until late in life. Management jobs with a lot of screen-based work caught up with me eventually.

 

[holto]

I can relate. I avoided until late in life. Management jobs with a lot of screen-based work caught up with me eventually.

think its just age. but hearing you. mine started to go round 48YO, now i have repository of 1.5 strength reading glasses stashed all over the place. and in cars.

 

[5teve]

think its just age. but hearing you. mine started to go round 48YO, now i have repository of 1.5 strength reading glasses stashed all over the place. and in cars.

Lol sounds like me - every year or 2 whenever I can get 2 new pairs from HBF I get another 2 - got them at 49 i think - have some proper ones and some cheapy off the shelf ones - I hate wearing them so like you have them scattered all around.

As for the driving dynamics... I have to agree - i find it very relaxing and very competant on the road - more refined than the older landrovers but similar feel - solid but capable

 

[joey4420]

As a Lotus Esprit Owner and owing my Grenadier, I have driven several Porsches over the years and I have to say the Lotus feels way more exciting. Now if you want a fun weekend car that nothing compares to, get a Lotus Elise or Exige, these are not daily drivers although you could, they are pretty much zero practicality around them. The Evora and Emira are basically the same car with the exception of the dash and integrated radio. I love the looks of the Emira but prefer the less computerized version of the Evora.

 

[landmannnn]

You

think its just age. but hearing you. mine started to go round 48YO, now i have repository of 1.5 strength reading glasses stashed all over the place. and in cars.

You know you are getting old when you take your phone to a restaurant. Not to browse TikTok, just so you can read the menu.

 

[Forrester]

Interesting ... I have a 911 (991.1 Carrera 4S - last of the NA!) and a Genadier Commercial. I love both - very, very different animals, though.

The 991 is, to be honest, a bit of a pussy cat below 3500 rpm - there are plenty of cars that will see you off at the lights, if you are into that sort of thing. But above 3500 rpm, the machine is absolutely terrifying. I hit the Sport+ button accidentally once and I can tell you, my life flashed before my eyes as the next bend loomed; I think I went round on two wheels. It was like being in a rocket. Because it's NA, the torque is very non-linear.

The Grenadier, on the other hand, doesn't so much drive as 'proceeds' in the direction you are pointing it at. And I absolutely love it. I would not change the steering at all (except for the turning circle - that's just horrible). I read loads of reviews (Autocar, etc.) about the Grenadier before buying it - and I think every one of them complained about the steering. So I went for a test drive, thinking that I might not get on with it: not so - I loved the feel of the vehicle and the steering so much that I bought one on the spot.

 

[landmannnn]

You

think its just age. but hearing you. mine started to go round 48YO, now i have repository of 1.5 strength reading glasses stashed all over the place. and in cars.

You know you are getting old when you take your phone to a restaurant. Not to browse TikTok,

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Interesting ... I have a 911 (991.1 Carrera 4S - last of the NA!) and a Genadier Commercial. I love both - very, very different animals, though.

The 991 is, to be honest, a bit of a pussy cat below 3500 rpm - there are plenty of cars that will see you off at the lights, if you are into that sort of thing. But above 3500 rpm, the machine is absolutely terrifying. I hit the Sport+ button accidentally once and I can tell you, my life flashed before my eyes as the next bend loomed; I think I went round on two wheels. It was like being in a rocket. Because it's NA, the torque is very non-linear.

The Grenadier, on the other hand, doesn't so much drive as 'proceeds' in the direction you are pointing it at. And I absolutely love it. I would not change the steering at all (except for the turning circle - that's just horrible). I read loads of reviews (Autocar, etc.) about the Grenadier before buying it - and I think every one of them complained about the steering. So I went for a test drive, thinking that I might not get on with it: not so - I loved the feel of the vehicle and the steering so much that I bought one on the spot.

I did test drive a 991.1 base carrera. Steering and throttle felt less lively than. The grenadier. When I got back in. It was a stark difference

 

[holto]

You

You know you are getting old when you take your phone to a restaurant. Not to browse TikTok, just so you can read the menu.

exactly.