Grenadier in bid to replace UK Army Landies

[David van Breda]

Grenadier offered in bid to replace the aging LR fleet of the UK Army

This will be very interesting!
If there is already another thread like this, please delete.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Hi David
Great news if Ineos win an order.

See this thread:​

UK Military Land Rover replacement​

 

[NQ94]

It's going to be an interesting tender process to follow. Using what has been described in the Australian process and US military vehicle procurement the long term support for what ever vehicle is chosen seems to be just as a large part of the contract as the vehicle itself.
The question that has to be asked does Ineos have the long term support available for Grenadier for military applications when the current support for retail customers is still not hitting the mark?

 

[Logsplitter]

It's going to be an interesting tender process to follow. Using what has been described in the Australian process and US military vehicle procurement the long term support for what ever vehicle is chosen seems to be just as a large part of the contract as the vehicle itself.
The question that has to be asked does Ineos have the long term support available for Grenadier for military applications when the current support for retail customers is still not hitting the mark?

I found it just as interesting that JLR is bidding with a military spec new defender

 

[David van Breda]

It's going to be an interesting tender process to follow. Using what has been described in the Australian process and US military vehicle procurement the long term support for what ever vehicle is chosen seems to be just as a large part of the contract as the vehicle itself.
The question that has to be asked does Ineos have the long term support available for Grenadier for military applications when the current support for retail customers is still not hitting the mark?

My view is that, given the scale of such a potential sale (or partnership, almost), not to mention the significant impact it would have on the brand, INEOS should be in a position to commit to the specific support requirements of the military sector.
The current civilian infrastructure should not necessarily be used as a benchmark for military applications, as this represents an entirely different market with very different operational and support expectations.

AI Generation below!

 

[David van Breda]

I found it just as interesting that JLR is bidding with a military spec new defender

They will probably submit an offering for the HQ and officers corps only!!
Still a sexy car, though, just not usable for what we want to do!

 

[landmannnn]

Entertaing mock ups.... in reality the contract is for logistics support vehicles, nowhere near any kind of battlefield.

 

[C-Mack]

I can picture it now… intense military engagement requiring everyone to keep quiet while slowly rolling on then all of a sudden the Grenadier let’s out a loud low fuel “Bong” noise and gives their position away to the enemy.

 

[Ever Pragmatic]

UK procurement will require full hybrid or electric only drive.. they’ll end up with a disaster. What they need is a durable, robust and mechanically simple vehicle that is virtually devoid of electrical monitoring or emissions kit. A turbo diesel with few thermo plastic components would also be nice.. Ineos has a great platform for military use and have longevity built in…. The MOD will totally balls up the replacement for the sturdy and simple defender..

 

[RY-Journeyman]

I can picture it now… intense military engagement requiring everyone to keep quiet while slowly rolling on then all of a sudden the Grenadier let’s out a loud low fuel “Bong” noise and gives their position away to the enemy.

Or stealthy approach by SAS spoilt only by the grenadier engine’s helicopter mode starting up!!’

 

[landmannnn]

UK procurement will require full hybrid or electric only drive.. they’ll end up with a disaster. What they need is a durable, robust and mechanically simple vehicle that is virtually devoid of electrical monitoring or emissions kit. A turbo diesel with few thermo plastic components would also be nice.. Ineos has a great platform for military use and have longevity built in…. The MOD will totally balls up the replacement for the sturdy and simple defender..

I pretty sure they said they want an off the shelf vehicle that is durable, robust etc.. For that reason it seems that the very basic and relatively cheap Hilux would be the front runner, the only drawback being the small rear seating.

 

[RY-Journeyman]

I pretty sure they said they want an off the shelf vehicle that is durable, robust etc.. For that reason it seems that the very basic and relatively cheap Hilux would be the front runner, the only drawback being the small rear seating.

And that all the world’s terrorist groups use them. And that they perform terribly in the moose test.

 

[Tazzieman]

I can picture it now… intense military engagement requiring everyone to keep quiet while slowly rolling on then all of a sudden the Grenadier let’s out a loud low fuel “Bong” noise and gives their position away to the enemy.

Last century scenario
War is kids with electronic devices now.

 

[C-Mack]

Last century scenario
War is kids with electronic devices now.

You’re right… I was still playing with my ActionMan with “Eagle eyes” as I was imagining the engagement scenario.

 

[Cheshire cat]

You’re right… I was still playing with my ActionMan with “Eagle eyes” as I was imagining the engagement scenario.

Eagle eyes? You must be a bit younger than me. Eyes were fixed in my day.

 

[C-Mack]

Eagle eyes? You must be a bit younger than me. Eyes were fixed in my day.

Oh I had the fixed eyed ones as well but Eagle Eyes was my last and favorite one. I’m convinced toys of the 70’s were the best. The day I had to give up my Airfix Flight Deck, Matchbox and ActionMan collections before immigrating was devastating. Nostalgia can hit pretty hard sometimes perhaps it’s the reason I was drawn to the Grenadier as it feels like something comforting from the past.

 

[Logsplitter]

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[Cheshire cat]

If IA were to offer door removal options, etc I imagine it going down very well in the States especially.

 

[shakesc]

If IA were to offer door removal options, etc I imagine it going down very well in the States especially.

Get that free of charge with an old Landie if you leave it parked up long enogh

 

[ryket]

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As a highly experienced armchair general, I'm not sure I like the idea of being on a modern battlefield in a car without doors. (didn't the British Army move away from that after Iraq?)

Getting a military contract would be good news for IA though, both for their long term finances and for the brand.