A little information about the HIGH-LOAD ADDITIONAL SWITCH BOX AND ELECTRICAL PREPARATION

[DCPU]

Ein paar Infos zum HOCHLAST-ZUSATZSCHALTKASTEN UND ELEKTRISCHE VORBEREITUNG

Für alle die sich Gedanken dazu gemacht haben wie sie Ihr Zubehör verkabeln sollen. Die wasserfesten Stecker nennen sich DT Deutsch Stecker 2 Polig und sind im KFZ Zubehör erhältlich und natürlich bei uns. Mit diesen Steckern könnt Ihr die bereits ab Werk vorgerüsteten Anschlüsse nutzen und...

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[Logsplitter]

I take it that the connectors in question are the dtp/25amp type?

https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/628276.pdf

 

[DenisM]

Well there you go Deutsch connectors... they seem to be de rigueur these days for adding electrical bits and pieces...the only problem has been the price and especially the proper crimping tools... which I've baulked at until now...However, since I'm spending a motza (technical term for "a lot"of money) on the Grenadier, heck...what's a couple of hundred for a decent set of Deutsch crimp tools and assorted lugs and connectors.... The equivalent cost of a a single tank of diesel at today's prices!

 

[DCPU]

 

[DCPU]

I take it that the connectors in question are the dtp/25amp type?

https://www.farnell.com/datasheets/628276.pdf

I'm thinking notionally the standard DT series for the 10 amp circuits and the DTP for the 25 amp ones.

Deutsch also seem to differentiate between the grey and black connectors in terms of quality:

 

[Krabby]

Is it a safe assumption the connectors will be the same regardless of location? IE The UK, Aus, North America, etc.

 

[DCPU]

I would guess that there's no reason that they have to be. How widely are Deutsch connectors used over there? If they're not widely available then maybe there's a market specific connector that's more appropriate.

 

[Logsplitter]

Here’s a cheaper alternative crimp tool for deutech connectors. Probably not robust enough for everyday professional use but a
suitable alternative for the occasional user.

Deutsch Connector Crimp Tool | Deutsch Connectors | Buy Spares Online

Deutsch 'DT' Connector Crimping Tool. Crimping tool for D-sub Contacts. Suitable for Contacts with AWG12 - 20 (0.5 - 4.00mm2). Carbon steel frame with black oxide finish and soft Ergonomic handle.

www.htsspares.com

 

[Logsplitter]

Once I get the vehicle I’ll be making up new leads for the compressor , trickle charger, solar charger and auxiliary lights etc. so I’ll be looking for a reasonably priced crimper solution.

 

[emax]

On my motorbike, I have fitted AMP Superseal plugs like the one below. If mounted correctly, they are waterproof and available with many different numbers of pins.

The crimping pliers was around 170 Euros and is worth every cent.

 

[rchrds]

On my motorbike, I have fitted AMP Superseal plugs like the one below. If mounted correctly, they are waterproof and available with many different numbers of pins.

The crimping pliers was around 170 Euros and is worth every cent.

I also use Deutche connectors and bought a crimper a few years ago for bike and boat projects. This is good news indeed.

 

[RotorOver]

There are actually a couple of styles of DT pins and therefore a couple of styles of crimpers that will work. The more expensive solid pins require the expense type of crimper, but if you go with the type of pin that wraps itself around the wire a weather pack style crimper can be used with a cost of about $25 US. The inexpensive style are fine for automotive applications and can handle the loads seen.

Inexpensive


Expensive

 

[DenisM]

Great info! thanks

 

[emax]

The "expensive" crimping tool, if it's a professional build, allows different dies. Mine came with three pairs and thus replaces three tools - which makes it less expensive.

There are cheap ones with exchangable dies as well, but I don't know about the quality. "Klauke" is an excellent choice. In this specimen, one pair of dies is mounted and two other pairs of dies are "parked" in the handles.

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[stickshifter]

These seem to be an excellent product. Does anyone know if they are used much in the U.S.?

 

[emax]

I don't know about the US market. But I know that in Germany, Klauke has an excellent reputation among tradesmen, electricians - and me, not to forget.

They have a search site for their dealers:

https://www.klauke.com/me/en/where-...&r=0&p=1&lat=39.952584&lng=-75.165222&l=4&v=c

 

[Krabby]

On the subject of electronic tools, I do not own a multi meter And feel like it’s something I should own. I have tons of hand tools and learned a lot from my father who was a mechanic. He also taught me plumbing, general carpentry, etc. But one thing he didn’t mess with was electrical stuff so my knowledge and working experience with that stuff is nonexistent.

I have been watching countless YouTube videos trying to get a better understanding of the basics and it’s apparent adding a multimeter to my toolbox is a must.

Any suggestions on a good choice for a meter? Seems like you can get ones for as little as 10-15 bucks and on the other end of the spectrum they can run into the hundreds. I don’t need the latest and greatest but I believe in buying quality tools.

 

[RoadBuilder]

On the subject of electronic tools, I do not own a multi meter And feel like it’s something I should own. I have tons of hand tools and learned a lot from my father who was a mechanic. He also taught me plumbing, general carpentry, etc. But one thing he didn’t mess with was electrical stuff so my knowledge and working experience with that stuff is nonexistent.

I have been watching countless YouTube videos trying to get a better understanding of the basics and it’s apparent adding a multimeter to my toolbox is a must.

Any suggestions on a good choice for a meter? Seems like you can get ones for as little as 10-15 bucks and on the other end of the spectrum they can run into the hundreds. I don’t need the latest and greatest but I believe in buying quality tools.

Fluke or Greenlee. Although, Milwaukee makes a pretty good multimeter that is much less expensive.

 

[DenisM]

For general tool box use, and learning the black arts of electronics, in your part of the world, Walmart and Sears have reliable multimeters from $10 -$30. Pick one in the middle $ range.
My high school best mate who's been a professional electronics design engineer for 40+ yrs has collection of multimeters, some of which cost a "king's ransom" . He freely admits with a grin that his "meter of choice" for what he refers to as "day to day rough and tumble work" is a A$40 unit from a well known local electronics chain!

To use one properly however you need to understand basic electrical theory. Check out high school physics classes on YouTube.. it's a marvellous resource.

 

[DaveB]

On the subject of electronic tools, I do not own a multi meter And feel like it’s something I should own. I have tons of hand tools and learned a lot from my father who was a mechanic. He also taught me plumbing, general carpentry, etc. But one thing he didn’t mess with was electrical stuff so my knowledge and working experience with that stuff is nonexistent.

I have been watching countless YouTube videos trying to get a better understanding of the basics and it’s apparent adding a multimeter to my toolbox is a must.

Any suggestions on a good choice for a meter? Seems like you can get ones for as little as 10-15 bucks and on the other end of the spectrum they can run into the hundreds. I don’t need the latest and greatest but I believe in buying quality tools.

Get one that is designed for auto electrical use

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